Anglican bishops join Catholics

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Category : Acts, Beer and Bible, Church

Reading this story on Monday I couldn’t help but be reminded of a recent discussion at beer and bible. We have been working our way through Acts and while in Acts 21 we came across an account of Paul disagreeing with the Jerusalem church.

In reading this account I was struck by Paul’s reaction to this difference in theological opinion. Paul is far more interested in what united his ministry with the eastern church than what separated it.

I wonder if this is something that we should be taking heed of today. While, on the one hand, denomination seems to be a long way down the list when many folk are choosing a church, we also hear of stories such as this one. that make the national press.

There is a clear divide (unfortunate choice of word, sorry) between the hard core traditionalists and those who hardly know what the difference between a Baptist, Methodist, or Anglican might be.

Paul didn’t seem to see these issues as ones to make a fuss about. Churches since then have split over much less I’m sure. But are there issues to split a church over? Or maybe such differences are what define us as an authentic community?

I’m not sure. What do you think?

Beer & Bible: Luke 16

Category : Beer and Bible, Bible, Luke

This week we march on through Luke 16. Things seem to be getting a little strange.

Questions

The main questions that came up were;

  1. Shrewd business man? How can God encourage his behaviour?
  2. What is the story all about at the end? Heaven, void, errrr….?

Discussion

Most of the evening focused on the parable of the shrewd business man. This seems, at first glance, so far removed from much of the rest of what we have read elsewhere that it just doesn’t make sense. God seems to encourage dishonesty and use of other “worldliness” if the end results are going to be positive.

We discussed what this could mean and how it fits with our understanding of how we live in world but not of it. Etc.

This lead to how we use money, and how we interact with people generally. What does it mean to be shrewd for the kingdom.

A great discussion. I think we all left feeling challenged.

Drinks consumed were:  Tangle Food, 6X, Carlsberg

Next week

Reading: Luke 17

Venue: The Northcote Hotel (lounge bar)

Time: 20:00

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Beer & Bible: Luke 13

Category : Beer and Bible, Bible, Luke

It’s been a little while since I reported on Beer and Bible. We are up to Luke 14 and it’s intense stuff. We have had a number of new faces join us recently and it’s not been the easiest of sessions to join in. But it has been fun and the new contributions are very welcome. It’s exciting to start to see this grow.

Questions

The main questions that came up were;

  1. Repent or perish? A bit harsh?
  2. Is the parable of the fruit tree unfinished?
  3. Why is the door narrow?

Discussion

We took on a long discussion about the nature of the Kingdom of God. What is it? This led into spending some time with the parable of the fruit tree. Questions were raised about how it could have ended and who the characters in the story were supposed to represent.

The second main topic for discussion was about the narrow door. Does God deliberately make the door narrow? How can people try, and fail, to find their way through it as seems to be suggested in the passage?

Finally we discussed the idea that our motivations might be more important to God than our actions.

It was a really challenging discussion and I felt quite tired by the end of it. Food thought. Good stuff.

Drinks consumed were:  Guinness, Red Wine, Coke

Next week

Reading: Luke 14 (the rest)

Venue: The Northcote Hotel (lounge bar)

Time: 20:00

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